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it's becoming more of a fiscal slope as oppose to a fiscal cliff. thank you within kelly. jonathan, i want to turn to you right here. harry reid was not holding back this morning on the senate floor. i want to play what he said about the 435 members in the house. >> there's 435 members of the house. what goes on in this country shouldn't be decided by the majority. it should be decided by the whole house of representatives. the speaker just has a few days left to change his mind. but i have to be very honest, mr. president, i don't know timewise how it can happen now. >> and we just heard from kelly about this possible new deal the president has sent over regarding the fiscal cliff. harry reid, though, there's not a lot of time left. >> no, there isn't a lot of time left. what the majority leader is referring to is we've been talking about a lot, the majority of the majority real that if boehner would put aside this tradition that if he's going to get anything passed, it has to be passed bay majority of the republican caucus. clearly there have been times on the little and
it's becoming more of a fiscal slope as oppose to a fiscal cliff. thank you within kelly. jonathan, i want to turn to you right here. harry reid was not holding back this morning on the senate floor. i want to play what he said about the 435 members in the house. >> there's 435 members of the house. what goes on in this country shouldn't be decided by the majority. it should be decided by the whole house of representatives. the speaker just has a few days left to change his mind. but i...
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you. >> thank you. >> we'll be back on the apparent deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. you are watching "msnbc" the place for politicings milissa e . >>> welcome back to "msnbc" coverage of the plan on the fiscal cliff. the nation is scheduled to go off the cliff at midnight, eastern time. the senate bill is being worked on right now. and lawmakers may try to vote on it sometime tonight. the house, meanwhile, is scheduled to remain adjourned until noon tomorrow. house minority leader nancy pelosi released a statement just minutes ago saying in part "when a final agreement is reached and passed by the senate i will present it to the house democratic caucus." vice president joe biden who worked for the past hours with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, worked to reach the deal. for more, i am joined by the vice president's former chief economist and adviser, jared burnstein. >> well, it is nice to be with you, with what sounds like some progress on the hill. >> are there any surprises for you in all of this, and how it is going down? >> well, i was a bit surprised by
you. >> thank you. >> we'll be back on the apparent deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. you are watching "msnbc" the place for politicings milissa e . >>> welcome back to "msnbc" coverage of the plan on the fiscal cliff. the nation is scheduled to go off the cliff at midnight, eastern time. the senate bill is being worked on right now. and lawmakers may try to vote on it sometime tonight. the house, meanwhile, is scheduled to remain adjourned until noon...
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saying you can't do this with the fiscal cliff. what a two months that will be. thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. joining me here in the studio with our first reads of the day, senior political editor mark murray. welcome. back and forth from the harry reid. we have congressional ping pong going on. you said it is time for house republicans to put middle class families first bypassing the senate's bill to protect 98% of americans on january 1st. the senate bill could pass tomorrow if the house republicans would lead it come to the floor. the house had two bills that collectively can avert the entire fiscal cliff if enacted. those bills await action by the senate. >> the classic ping pong gridlock and no way out. >> it's important to know how far we have come in the last seven days. a week ago we were closer than we had seen before on a particular deal. john boehner made a big concession allowing tax cuts to rise on income over a million dollars. president obama countered with a big concession and saying that that should be $400,000 and have fixes t
saying you can't do this with the fiscal cliff. what a two months that will be. thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. joining me here in the studio with our first reads of the day, senior political editor mark murray. welcome. back and forth from the harry reid. we have congressional ping pong going on. you said it is time for house republicans to put middle class families first bypassing the senate's bill to protect 98% of americans on january 1st. the senate bill could pass...
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thanks for being back. if we go over the fiscal cliff works comes out on top? >> it sounds like the president does, after all, he's the won the election. the polls show that the american people for the most part favor some sort of tax increase for the wealthy, but quite frankly the losers are just about everybody. certainly those who are in the position to need unemployment insurance, federal workers, those who are beholden to the government, that type of thing, and i think that also the political system in the united states is a loser. i really do believe that the polls bear this out, that people are really getting disgusted with all the players in this game, and they want to see it stopped. >> let bring in paul cain, congressional correspondent for the "washington post." you know, to what bob was just saying americans are shaking their heads at all of this, just watching this blame game and wondering where are we going with this. >> you know, melissa, the other night mark begich, freshman senator from alaska when he was walking out friday night, he called it
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thank you. still to come, after the fiscal cliff, the hangover. what will it feel like the day after? up next though, arming teachers to protect students, we are going to talk to arizona's attorney general who has a plan under way to do just that. you are watching msnbc, the place for politics. [ sniffs ] i have a cold. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't treat that. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ breathes deeply ] awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is. that's the cold truth! i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment
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thank you. >> thank you. >>> much more ahead as the nation inches forwards the everyone of the fiscal cliff. and at the top of the hour, david gregory's interview made news from "meet the press." that's coming up, too. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. if we took the already great sentra apart and completely reimagined it with best-in-class combined mpg, and more interior room than corolla and civic? and a technology suite with bluetooth, navigation and other handy stuff? yeah, that would be cool. introducing the all-new nissan sentra. it's our most innovative sentra ever. nissan. innovation that excites. now g
thank you. >> thank you. >>> much more ahead as the nation inches forwards the everyone of the fiscal cliff. and at the top of the hour, david gregory's interview made news from "meet the press." that's coming up, too. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest...
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thank you. >> that's right. >> a deal on the fiscal cliff may be at hand, but there's still a lot to do, and not a lot of time to do it. delaware democratic senator chris kuhns. thank you for taking the time. i want to talk about something first that your colleague tom hashi harken said on the senate floor. let's come back and talk about it. >> it looks like all of the taxes will be made permanent, but all of the other things that the middle class and america really depends on. one year or two years at the most, but the tax system is made permanent. well, i just think that's grossly unfair. grossly unfair. as i have said before, no deal is better than a bad deal, and this looks like a very bad deal the way this is shaping up. >> so, senator kuhns, is $400,000 on individuals a bad deal as tom harken described, it or is some deal better than no deal at this point? >> well, first, let's just talk about our broader values and the context we're operating in. given the real financial strains on our federal budget, given divided government where the house is controlled by republicans, the s
thank you. >> that's right. >> a deal on the fiscal cliff may be at hand, but there's still a lot to do, and not a lot of time to do it. delaware democratic senator chris kuhns. thank you for taking the time. i want to talk about something first that your colleague tom hashi harken said on the senate floor. let's come back and talk about it. >> it looks like all of the taxes will be made permanent, but all of the other things that the middle class and america really depends...
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we'll talk about that. >>> no deal in sight before the so-called fiscal cliff. coming up, an update on what if anything can be done from the ranking democrat on the house budget committee, maryland congressman chris van hollen and new information of kelly o'donnell and check out the "news nation" tumblr page. lots of behind the scenes pictures. i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump through. that's 1% back on... [ toy robot sounds ] 2% on pumpkin pie. and apple. 3% back on 4 trips to the airport. it's as easy as... -[ man ] 1... -[ woman ] 2... [ woman ] 3. [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. >>> we are about a half hour away now with the meeting between president obama and top leaders of both parties. joining the president and vice president, boehner, pelosi, reid and mcconnell. their goal, agree on something before the country falls off
we'll talk about that. >>> no deal in sight before the so-called fiscal cliff. coming up, an update on what if anything can be done from the ranking democrat on the house budget committee, maryland congressman chris van hollen and new information of kelly o'donnell and check out the "news nation" tumblr page. lots of behind the scenes pictures. i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every...
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thanks. >> good to see you, chris, thanks. >> up next, the fiscal cliff and you. what the deal struck last night by the senate means for your bottom line. >>> plus, we'll also have the latest on secretary of state hillary clinton's condition. she continues to get treatment for a blood clot in a new york hospital. >>> and then later, coming to a theater near you. the new movies hitting the big screen in 2013. which will be the blockbusters and which won't be worth your buck? >>> so, here we are, 98% of americans will avoid a tax hike in the new year, of course, if the house goes along with the fiscal cliff deal that was reached in the senate very early this morning. individuals earning $400,000 a year, couples earning $450,000, will see their income taxes rise on amounts above their annual salary. and in addition to income taxes, the senate plan prevents other tax hikes and extends key benefits. here to talk about what this fiscal cliff deal could mean to you is retail and economic analyst hitha. >> happy new year. >> a lot of people breathing a sigh of relief, obv
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. >>> why do some washington power brokers want to go over the fiscal cliff? the political brief sing next. first, the amr moment of 2012 that left us all speechless. i'm not kidding. this literally left me speech weathers it happened. you will remember it. >> contraceptive thing, my gosh, it is such inexpensive. back in my days, they used bayer aspirin, they put it between their knees and it was not that costly? ? >> excuse me, i'm just trying to catch my breath from that. >>> this afternoon's meeting feels like optics, to make it look like we are doing something. let me say one more time, this is a total dereliction of duty at every level. i have been surprised that -- the president has not laid out a very specific plan to deal with this. but candidly, congress could have done the same. and i think that the american people should be disgusted. >> this's just four days until washington drives off the so-called fiscal cliff. something both democrats and republicans have called a worst case scenario. is temporarily going tv cliff is a best-case scenario for all
. >>> why do some washington power brokers want to go over the fiscal cliff? the political brief sing next. first, the amr moment of 2012 that left us all speechless. i'm not kidding. this literally left me speech weathers it happened. you will remember it. >> contraceptive thing, my gosh, it is such inexpensive. back in my days, they used bayer aspirin, they put it between their knees and it was not that costly? ? >> excuse me, i'm just trying to catch my breath from that....
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thank you. >>> while the fiscal cliff has reigning in, some are it's report that had contributions of up 63% for the first nine months. the reason donors are concerned that a fiscal cliff deal could limit the tax deduction on charitable giving in the future. >> good day to you. is that the reason? i think people are worried they won't know what the deduction listen next we're, so front-loading the deduction this year. hopefully it's my wish they don't reduce it at all. >> let's look at some of the numbers. each year 300 billion is given to charity and claim about 50 billion a year in tax deductions. so when you look at some of the numbers, a person making about $too,000, they can deduct 35%. if that were to go down to 28%, how much do you think that would impact giving? >> you know, the estimate is anywhere between 1 and 30 billi billion, depending on how the deduction goes, and even if it's eliminated. it's hard to predict. one of the important things is this deduction han in place since 1917, and no one has ever touched it before. so we have no data on what's going to happen, but i
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you, sir. >> let's turn back to wash wish and the fiscal cliff drama. most americans could see a rise in taxes and government spending cuts if government does not reach a deal before year's end, and i want to bring in two capitol hill veterans, budget committee member as well, martin frost of texas and david winston, he was aide to newt gingrich and adviser to newt gingrich's 2012 presidential campaign. i want to pick up where we left off last hour. gentlemen, you were making a point. my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up going with this commission and i think it was frustrating to both men. my sense is the
you, sir. >> let's turn back to wash wish and the fiscal cliff drama. most americans could see a rise in taxes and government spending cuts if government does not reach a deal before year's end, and i want to bring in two capitol hill veterans, budget committee member as well, martin frost of texas and david winston, he was aide to newt gingrich and adviser to newt gingrich's 2012 presidential campaign. i want to pick up where we left off last hour. gentlemen, you were making a point. my...
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thank you. >> thank you. >>> are retail sales diving off the fiscal cliff? we'll talk about how the tax cut debate is impacting the recent christmas shopping economy. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? when you lost the thing you can't believe you lost.. when what you just bought, just broke. or when you have a little trouble a long way from home... as an american express cardmember you can expect some help. but what you might not expect, is you can get all this with a prepaid card. spends like cash. feels like membership. >>> senator mike crapo is apologizing for his drunk driving arrest. he said, quoetd, i'm deeply sorry for the actions that resulted in this circumstance. i made a mistake for which i apologi
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for more on the fiscal cliff i'm joined by deputy political editor domminco. let's talk about what are the opings left on the table as we look at the narrow window that's left to get us to 2013 and what could get done. >> well, i think ultimately you've got a small deal, a big deal, or going over the cliff. there is some movement towards getting a small deal done. you hear that from congressman ellison. senate airdz on both sides tell me that that's possible. the 250,000 a year tax cut plus unemployment things and it maybe can kick the can down the road. that will have consequences for the president's agenda in the next year because he wants to get immigration reform done. he wants to get a lot of other things done that really get pushed down the road if fiscal stiff is still weighing on him. >> which side has negotiated in good faith more? the political reporting we've heard is that the president is still at the table. he is saying let's get something done. john boehner is at the table saying he wants to get something done, but -- i think the white house says
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we'll be back in a moment with continuing coverage with the apparent deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. you're watching msnbc, the mace for politics. >>> welcome back to coverage of the breaking news on capitol hill where white house and lawmakers in the senate have come up with a brplan to deal wh the fiscal cliff. senate democrats out of a immediating with joe biden indicate there is a strong democratic support for the plan. it is not clear if we will see a vote in the senate tonight. the house remain as juniored until noon tomorrow. no matter what, the nation will go off the cliff in a few minutes, at mid might eastern, at least temporarily. nancy pelosi released a statement, just a short time ago, saying in part "when a final agreement is reached and passed by the senate, i will present it to the house democratic caucus." for republican reaction, let's bring in political analyst and former chair of the rnc, michael steele, happy almost new year. >> happy almost new year, milissa. did you ever think this is what we would be doing tonight? >> i did not. but in all fairness, we could h
we'll be back in a moment with continuing coverage with the apparent deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. you're watching msnbc, the mace for politics. >>> welcome back to coverage of the breaking news on capitol hill where white house and lawmakers in the senate have come up with a brplan to deal wh the fiscal cliff. senate democrats out of a immediating with joe biden indicate there is a strong democratic support for the plan. it is not clear if we will see a vote in the senate tonight....
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these fiscal cliff negotiations. which side will likely face the bulk of the blame if there is no deal. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. citi price rewind. with a new project in mind, some how-to knowledge to give us an new years clutter is no match for someone with big ideas. edge, and more savings down every aisle. it only takes a few twists and turns for those bright ideas to make the new year even brighter. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. start fresh and save with hdx 20 gallon totes, a special buy at just $5.
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thank you. >> you got it. >> the fiscal cliff reportedly weighing on shoppers this holiday season. consumer confidence in december hitting a five-month loaf, bloomberg reporting that online stales increased by a little more than 8% this holiday season compared with 16% this time last year. joining us now with what a the fiscal cliff means for consumers, you listened to what hampton was telling us as well, we still have some big days ahead of us in shopping. are we really going to see the sort of negative or shall we say not an increase from last year, that 8% versus 16% as we're just showing. >> on that 8 versus 16 it's 8% over a much, much higher base than the 16 was. you are going to have an slowdown of online sales. we're all shopping online. the other thing about this is of course people are worried about the fiscal cliff because that's the only thing what we're talking about on air. i don't mean to say this is a media for a washington story, i just mean it's a story that has engendered a hume of -- it may be that we've so gamed out that negative reaction that come january 1 pe
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as immediate as the term "fiscal cliff" seems to imply. the expiration of the tax cuts with a $2200 average tax high. the payroll tax cut would also expire meaning another $40 a paycheck and long-term unemployment benefits would end for 2 million americans. while these elements could have a recession-inducing effect, they could undo those measures shortly after the first of the year. estimations are if we do go over the cliff it would be the third quarter which the recession may hit. when be look at the issue of a -- the markets, however, may feel the brunt of the fiscal cliff fallout. the dow fell on friday after the deal failed the night before. last week fitch warned it may downgrade the u.s. credit rating if congress cannot reach a deal. some lawmakers are angling for the best political outcountry. >> when i listen to the president, i think he's eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he gets all this additional tax revenue for new programs, gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years, and he get
as immediate as the term "fiscal cliff" seems to imply. the expiration of the tax cuts with a $2200 average tax high. the payroll tax cut would also expire meaning another $40 a paycheck and long-term unemployment benefits would end for 2 million americans. while these elements could have a recession-inducing effect, they could undo those measures shortly after the first of the year. estimations are if we do go over the cliff it would be the third quarter which the recession may hit....
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your theory are it's key to how the fiscal cliff plays out. explain. >> there's a significant difference of opinion in the political ramification of what happens if we go over and it comes down debt ceiling. if we go over the fiscal cliff they have all of the leverage because we'll go into the debt ceiling and it will be just like 2011 again. they'll say we're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless you cut entitlements, barack obama will say no and terrified of consequences of national default he'll say yes. so they'll get all of the entitlement cuts with no tax increases on the table. democrats disagree. they will not, under any circumstance, no matter what republicans do, negotiate over the debt ceiling again. they'll break the habit now. if we go to the debt ceiling they'll say we're not talking about this, if you want to have a deal on entitlements, that will have to be matched one to one with tax increases, again, with tax reform. if they do that say democrats get $600 billion in tax increases off of the deal we'll have in the next co
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about the looming fiscal cliff. >> i'm not sure what's next. i can tell you, the senate's here, we're in session, we had votes tonight. the president is here. i'm the eternal optimist. we can pass the farm bill that we passed last june. by cutting subsidies for wealthy farmers. so, there's a lot of things that we can do but it's going to take the speaker deciding that he wants to work across the aisle to get it done. >> you can catch the rachel maddow show right here on msbnc on 9:00. >>> retired four-star general norman schwarzkopf died thursday at his home in tampa, florida. he was 78. the hard-charging general, was most famous for leading coalition forces to victory during the first persian gulf war in 1991. under his command it took troops just six weeks to drive saddam hussein's army out of kuwait. gener schwarzkopf is survived by his wife brenda and their three children. >>> former president george h.w. bush are main street in intensive care this morning. while mr. bush's condition is serious, in an e-mail, a spokesperson said for the fam
about the looming fiscal cliff. >> i'm not sure what's next. i can tell you, the senate's here, we're in session, we had votes tonight. the president is here. i'm the eternal optimist. we can pass the farm bill that we passed last june. by cutting subsidies for wealthy farmers. so, there's a lot of things that we can do but it's going to take the speaker deciding that he wants to work across the aisle to get it done. >> you can catch the rachel maddow show right here on msbnc on...
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you. >> okay. >> while the deal on the fiscal cliff got brought by partisan support, there are a lot of people on the left and the right unhappy. >> are you one of the folks that thinks the president hasn't played hardball enough is this. >> on revenues, no. >> this was our best opportunity to get a substantial contributor to a broad agreement. there's a lot of disappointment on the revenue outcome. on the other hand, there's two other issues that the president had to pay attention to. one is the broad affect of the -- on the economy, and this is a do no harm outcome as far as the economy is concerned. >> republicans ask democrats, whatever your point of view, is we've got that triple play or triple jeopardy we're saying. we're just going to have that nightmare scenario in a couple of months. >> sense you brought up the whole overall affect on the economy, we all know what happened with this debt ceiling fight. >> we had our first credit downgrade, number one. number two, it cost american taxpayers about $90 billion in additional interest payments over the next ten years, and then th
you. >> okay. >> while the deal on the fiscal cliff got brought by partisan support, there are a lot of people on the left and the right unhappy. >> are you one of the folks that thinks the president hasn't played hardball enough is this. >> on revenues, no. >> this was our best opportunity to get a substantial contributor to a broad agreement. there's a lot of disappointment on the revenue outcome. on the other hand, there's two other issues that the president had...
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over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his new offer with offers down at the white house. we saw the stock market sell off rather dramatically just in those couple of minutes as that news was coming out. i got to say that over the past 24 hours or so the stock market has been relatively calm sort of expecting a deal, expecting that lawmakers will somehow come to a consensus here. in terms of long-term planning, this is difficult for businesses who don't know what the tax situation is going to be for the next year. it's that uncertainty. so many businesses have such difficulty, and a lot of folks do say that there are a lot of hires that would have been made in the economy right now. new jobs created. new people added to existing companies that haven't happened as a result of this hangover over the economy, which is coming from the fiscal cliff. >> all right. am
over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his new offer with offers down at the white house. we saw the stock market sell off rather dramatically just in those couple of minutes as that news was coming out. i got to say that over the past 24 hours or so the stock market has...
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the fiscal cliff will hurt cities across the nation, philadelphia mayor michael nutter. mr. mayor, thank you so much for being on the show. >> thank you, luke. >> obviously, you've been very outspoken about how the sequester could have the severe impact on budgets for cities around the country. talk about that a little bit. we're only six days away. are you surprised by the lack of action here in washington on the fiscal cliff considering the dire implications for a lot of budgets in cities around america? >> actually, look, i am surprised. been around the block just a couple times. i've seen different things in the past, but this is very serious business, and apparently some members of congress just don't get it. the -- you can call it whatever you want to call it, but certainly fiscal is in front of it and it's not good. taxes going up for all americans, not a good thing. significant, possibly devastating budget cuts coming down to certainly state and local governments, not a good thing. and so this seemingly bad game of chicken, you know, this is not some schoolyard g
the fiscal cliff will hurt cities across the nation, philadelphia mayor michael nutter. mr. mayor, thank you so much for being on the show. >> thank you, luke. >> obviously, you've been very outspoken about how the sequester could have the severe impact on budgets for cities around the country. talk about that a little bit. we're only six days away. are you surprised by the lack of action here in washington on the fiscal cliff considering the dire implications for a lot of budgets...
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thank you so much. >>> coming up in just a moment, the nation on the edge of the fiscal cliff. what kind of deal is going to satisfy americans? it's 13 past the hour. i'm t.j. and you're watching "weekends with alex witt." ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. if by blessed you mean freaked out about money well we suddenly noticed that everything was getting more expensive so we switched to the bargain detergent but i found myself using three times more than you're supposed to and the clothes still weren't as clean as with tide. so we're back to tide. they're cuter in clean clothes. thanks honey yeah you suck at folding [ laughs ] [ female announcer ] one cap of tide gives you more cleaning power than 6 caps of the bargain brand. [ woman ] that's my tide, what's yours? >>> 17 minutes past the hour now. president obama says he's optimistic senate leaders can avoid the fiscal cliff with just three days to go. if no agreement is reached the president says he's urge con
thank you so much. >>> coming up in just a moment, the nation on the edge of the fiscal cliff. what kind of deal is going to satisfy americans? it's 13 past the hour. i'm t.j. and you're watching "weekends with alex witt." ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. if by blessed you mean freaked out about money well we suddenly noticed that everything was getting more...
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the fiscal cliff deal passed by the senate? will hard line conservatives make it sxwobl in back now is reid wilson and ryan grim. thank you for coming back. >> hey. >> thanks for having us. >> do you think this bill will pass the houshgs and if not will democrats preferred to make further concessions? >> i think it will pass the house eventually. this is one of those moments, though, when i think speed is probably on the side of -- or, rather, it would benefit those who want to pass this bill. the faster you're able to get something to the floor and get it through a vote, the more likely you are to attract these conservatives and liberals, by the way, who might otherwise find a reason to vote against it. if the longer they take their time to sort of talk it through and go through the bill's details moment by moment, the more you'll get pressure from the outside and pressure from groups like everybody from the progressive campaign committee on the left to the heritage action and for growth on the right. the outside influences wi
the fiscal cliff deal passed by the senate? will hard line conservatives make it sxwobl in back now is reid wilson and ryan grim. thank you for coming back. >> hey. >> thanks for having us. >> do you think this bill will pass the houshgs and if not will democrats preferred to make further concessions? >> i think it will pass the house eventually. this is one of those moments, though, when i think speed is probably on the side of -- or, rather, it would benefit those who...
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>> thank you, kelly o'donnell, we'll be back with more on the fiscal cliff negotiations, when we return. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. [ sniffs ] [ sneezes ] [ sniffles ] [ female announcer ] for everything your face has to face. face it with puffs facial tissues. puffs has air-fluffed pillows for 40% more cushiony thickness. face every day with puffs softness. >>> welcome back to msnbc's breaking news coverage of the fiscal cliff deal that is being struck on capitol hill. i am being joined now on the phone by krystal ball, co-host of msnbc's "the cycle." thank you for taking time out of your new year's eve, this is big news. how do you think progressives will react to it? >> you know, i think it will be a mixed bag, and happy new year's to you. just how we want to spend it. i think it is going to be a mixed bag, you know, speaking for myself i actually think this is an okay deal. of course there is disappointment about elevating the tax rate from 250, to 400, singles, couples, i think that is disappointing to a lot of liberals and progressives. but there is also an ext
>> thank you, kelly o'donnell, we'll be back with more on the fiscal cliff negotiations, when we return. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. [ sniffs ] [ sneezes ] [ sniffles ] [ female announcer ] for everything your face has to face. face it with puffs facial tissues. puffs has air-fluffed pillows for 40% more cushiony thickness. face every day with puffs softness. >>> welcome back to msnbc's breaking news coverage of the fiscal cliff deal that is being struck on...
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thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> as the details of the fiscal cliff deal were coming together monday republicans were expressing their displeasure with how the president was selling the compromise. it wasn't just the words he used at a monday afternoon news conference but the optics of the president literally standing with the middle class voters that upset some of them including his 2008 opponent senator john mccain. >> as i sort out my impressions of the president's remarks as to whether to be angry or to be saddened. we have the president of the united states go over and have a cheerleading, ridiculing of republicans exercise. >> joining us now are our strats chris cofinas and chip salzmann. thank you for being here on this new year's day. >> thank you. so, chris, i want to start with you. are these attacks on the president's news conference fair? did that photo op with voters really risk derailing a deal? >> well, there have been a lot of things that risk derailing a deal. the president going out there and using the bully pulpit to pressure republicans if you will to come
thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> as the details of the fiscal cliff deal were coming together monday republicans were expressing their displeasure with how the president was selling the compromise. it wasn't just the words he used at a monday afternoon news conference but the optics of the president literally standing with the middle class voters that upset some of them including his 2008 opponent senator john mccain. >> as i sort out my impressions of the...
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is about spending your money as we await the outcome of the fiscal cliff negotiations. on the positive side you won be seeing $8 a gallon for milk because congress gave a one year extension for the farm bill. those who love your 75 watt light bulbs stock up while supplies last. new federal laws prohibit them to be imported or produced in 2013. the tribune company announced it's emerging from bankruptcy with new ownership and new board of directors and forbes has compiled a list of new york's resolutions that successful people make and actually keep. among them plan vacations now. wake up to the essentials first, check e-mail second. support a cause. find your purpose and go for it. go for it. new year's day marks the 150th anniversary of emancipation proclamation. president obama abraham lincoln's order that declared slaves in this country forever free. the document is once again on display. ron mott has details. >> reporter: showing its age the emancipation proclamation still draws attention. a document whose aim was to you night a country divided by war. >> it's amazi
is about spending your money as we await the outcome of the fiscal cliff negotiations. on the positive side you won be seeing $8 a gallon for milk because congress gave a one year extension for the farm bill. those who love your 75 watt light bulbs stock up while supplies last. new federal laws prohibit them to be imported or produced in 2013. the tribune company announced it's emerging from bankruptcy with new ownership and new board of directors and forbes has compiled a list of new york's...
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. >> we were saying a lack of urgency in washington to deal with the fiscal cliff and being a member of congress especially a respected member of the senate and what do you think is possible at this point on any type of a large scale deal. what do you see as the most likely scenario moving forward. >> i don't think it's a lack of urgency, but a great deal of concern that republican party failed to do anything. it seems that in the house, boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. i think the american people are very clear about what they want. what they want is to ask the wealthiest people in the country to pay their fair share of taxes. there was a poll out the other day, 70% of the american people think folks making over $250,000 a year should pay their fair share. they understand that one out of four corporations are paying nothing. the american people are very, very clear throughout this election and in polling as well. do not cut social security, medicare and medicaid. you have the situation with republicans saying hey, we don't think billionaires should pay a n
. >> we were saying a lack of urgency in washington to deal with the fiscal cliff and being a member of congress especially a respected member of the senate and what do you think is possible at this point on any type of a large scale deal. what do you see as the most likely scenario moving forward. >> i don't think it's a lack of urgency, but a great deal of concern that republican party failed to do anything. it seems that in the house, boehner has no control over his extreme right...
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. >> thank you. >>> stay with msnbc throughout the day for the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. again, the bipartisan bill 89-8 coming from the senate. that was passed at 2:00 this morning. it does not look good right now when it comes to the house. we had heard from the number two republican, eric cantor, that he cannot support it as-is and we also have heard from our own luke russert that based on what one member told him, 40 members from the gop conference stood up and spoke. 37 of those 40 were against the senate bill that came over 89-8. now, if it does get amended as we have just been discussing with mike viqueira and e.j. dionne, the question is will the senate take that up. we are hearing right now they will not. we'll continue to cover this issue for you. the fiscal cliff negotiations. we'll be right back with "hardball." there are patients who will question, why does my mouth feel dryer than i remember it to be? there are more people taking more medication, so we see people suffering from dry mouth more so. we may see more cavities, bad breath, oral irritation. a dry
. >> thank you. >>> stay with msnbc throughout the day for the latest on the fiscal cliff negotiations. again, the bipartisan bill 89-8 coming from the senate. that was passed at 2:00 this morning. it does not look good right now when it comes to the house. we had heard from the number two republican, eric cantor, that he cannot support it as-is and we also have heard from our own luke russert that based on what one member told him, 40 members from the gop conference stood up and...
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thank you for sticking around, we learned something huge today, we are going over the fiscal cliff, we are going either all the way over, or partly the way over. we are definitely going over, that whole fiscal cliff thing where congress and the white house cannot reach a deal, and they may be get us in a recession. it's going to happen. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families and our businesses and the entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> allow me a quick moment, that press conference came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reed and mitch mcconnell and all the kree congressional leaders and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again, america wonders why it is, in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything has to wait for the last minute. w
thank you for sticking around, we learned something huge today, we are going over the fiscal cliff, we are going either all the way over, or partly the way over. we are definitely going over, that whole fiscal cliff thing where congress and the white house cannot reach a deal, and they may be get us in a recession. it's going to happen. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our...
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i think you can bet that david will ask him all about the fiscal cliff talks. that is on "meet the press." >>> and what became of john boehner because not long ago he was the leader of a powerful leader of the house, but now he can't get his caucus to vote on the much approved plan b, and he is on the sidelines watching the fiscal cliff with the rest of us. this is "hardball." [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8. or...try kids boxes! >>> welcome back to "hardball." the president has made clear he wants a deal, but just how will a deal get done? joining me now from the hill is nbc's kelly o'donnell. kelly, i have heard a lot today about the house bill going to one, to the senate and getting amended, and is this some kind of smoke screen for the house republicans or some kind of legislative need to use the vehicle that has already been passed? >> well, at the risk of this being the eyes
i think you can bet that david will ask him all about the fiscal cliff talks. that is on "meet the press." >>> and what became of john boehner because not long ago he was the leader of a powerful leader of the house, but now he can't get his caucus to vote on the much approved plan b, and he is on the sidelines watching the fiscal cliff with the rest of us. this is "hardball." [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [...
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breaking news, president obama urges congress to make a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. he announces no deal, but progress may be in sight. >> and that would be the wrong thing to do for our e con mu. it would be bad for middle class families and bad for businesses that depend on family spending. fortunately, congress can prevent it from happening if they act right now. i just had a good and constructive discussion here at the white house about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. and i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. >> it comes after speaker boehner left the white house. he didn't say anything to reporters and neither did anyone else who was seen leaving the meeting. here's what we do know. in just four days, taxes will go up on millions. and millions more will have their vital unemployment benefits run out. that's why president obama organized the meeting with vice president biden, speaker boehner, nancy pelosi and senators
breaking news, president obama urges congress to make a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. he announces no deal, but progress may be in sight. >> and that would be the wrong thing to do for our e con mu. it would be bad for middle class families and bad for businesses that depend on family spending. fortunately, congress can prevent it from happening if they act right now. i just had a good and constructive discussion here at the white house about how to prevent this tax hike on the middle...
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. >> bob bazell, thank you so much. when we return, back to the fiscal cliff. were there any winners and losers in this months' long battle and where do we go from here? you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. at that. here? >>> welcome back. we are here with continuing coverage of last-minute negotiations aimed at avoiding going over the fiscal cliff. earlier today we heard from president obama who expressed frustration that congress has yet to come to an agreement. >> i have to say that ever since i took office, throughout the campaign, and over the last couple of months, my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain, whatever you want to call it that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way, but with this congress this was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. it may be we can do it in stages. we're going to solve this problem, instead, in several steps. one thing we can count on with respect to this congress is that if there's even on
. >> bob bazell, thank you so much. when we return, back to the fiscal cliff. were there any winners and losers in this months' long battle and where do we go from here? you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. at that. here? >>> welcome back. we are here with continuing coverage of last-minute negotiations aimed at avoiding going over the fiscal cliff. earlier today we heard from president obama who expressed frustration that congress has yet to come to an agreement....
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the next hour, a last-ditch effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president has called all four congressional leaders to the white house no a high stakes meeting. is there really any hope? i'll speak with congressman sanderson. and then should teachers be armed in the classroom? it's a big debate. whop wants at least one teacher armed at every school in his state. >>> then remembers stormin' norman, the history general who died yesterday. we'll have barry mccaffery reflecting on one of the most celebrated battlefield generals of our time. tends to stay in mo. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narcotic. you and your
the next hour, a last-ditch effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. the president has called all four congressional leaders to the white house no a high stakes meeting. is there really any hope? i'll speak with congressman sanderson. and then should teachers be armed in the classroom? it's a big debate. whop wants at least one teacher armed at every school in his state. >>> then remembers stormin' norman, the history general who died yesterday. we'll have barry mccaffery reflecting on one of...
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and straight ahead this afternoon, the real cost of continued silence about the fiscal cliff from our leaders in washington. their failure to lead speaks volumes. but what does it really mean for your bottom line? straight talk from "fortune" magazine. that's next. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. citi price rewind. with a new project in mind, some how-to knowledge to give us an new years clutter is no match for someone with big ideas. edge, and more savings down every aisle. it only takes a few twists and turns for those bright ideas to make the new year even brighter. more saving. more doing. that's the powe
and straight ahead this afternoon, the real cost of continued silence about the fiscal cliff from our leaders in washington. their failure to lead speaks volumes. but what does it really mean for your bottom line? straight talk from "fortune" magazine. that's next. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind...
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. >>> the senate is scheduled to get back to work and avoid the fiscal cliff 45 minutes from now. president obama will be watching with the rest of country for a deal to be hammered out. he thinks republican leaders need to bend. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit and as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> i'm joined by congresswoman barbara lee a democrat from california. good to see you. good morning. >> good to see you. glad to be with you. >> let me give you the republican perspective. it is that some indications they are willing to give on taxes whether 400 or 450,000, that yesterday they floated this idea of changing social security. they've backed off on that. they apparently are willing to give on some of these estate taxes. the democrats are willing to give on some of the estate taxes. but what the
. >>> the senate is scheduled to get back to work and avoid the fiscal cliff 45 minutes from now. president obama will be watching with the rest of country for a deal to be hammered out. he thinks republican leaders need to bend. >> congress has not been able to get this stuff done not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the...
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. >>> breaking news, house republicans have just wrapped up a meeting to discuss the fiscal cliff deal worked out by vice president joe biden and senate m minority leader mitch mcconnell. the deal which passed overnight will see income taxes rise on individuals making over $450,000 a year, and families making over $550,000 a year. let's listen in now as house democrats speak. >> caucus meeting which -- in which the vice president not only roused the entire membership, but also gave us a very thoughtful and detailed explanation of what's gone on, and how it was that he and the president working with the democratic and republican leaders in both houses were able to come together on this compromise. we first want to say thank you to the vice president for being so gracious. quite honestly, so frank in his conversation with us in explaining as much as he could about what's transpired over the last several weeks. we now are waiting to hear from our republican colleagues, whether or not they want to do what the senate did in a very bipartisan fashion and give the men people an opportunity to
. >>> breaking news, house republicans have just wrapped up a meeting to discuss the fiscal cliff deal worked out by vice president joe biden and senate m minority leader mitch mcconnell. the deal which passed overnight will see income taxes rise on individuals making over $450,000 a year, and families making over $550,000 a year. let's listen in now as house democrats speak. >> caucus meeting which -- in which the vice president not only roused the entire membership, but also...
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not just the fiscal cliff. the president has a lot to do and not a lot of time to do it. stay with us. >> the president goes off 18 hours on the golf course, 20 hours in the air. how do you view this politically? >> he's been using this, and i must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success to fracture and basically shatter the republican opposition. we're all having such a great year in the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. 'cause all our states are great. and now is when the gulf gets even better. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride or just lay in the sun. enjoy the wildlife and natural beauty. and don't forget our amazing seafood. so come to the gulf, you'll have a great time. especially in alabama. you mean mississippi. that's florida. say louisiana or there's no dessert. brought to you by bp and all of us who call the gulf home. c'mon, michael! get in the game! [ male announcer ] don't have the hops for hoops with your buddies? lost your appetite for rom
not just the fiscal cliff. the president has a lot to do and not a lot of time to do it. stay with us. >> the president goes off 18 hours on the golf course, 20 hours in the air. how do you view this politically? >> he's been using this, and i must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success to fracture and basically shatter the republican opposition. we're all having such a great year in the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. 'cause all our states are great. and...
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latest word from the hill on the last ditch fiscal cliff negotiations. a negotiator will join us on why it has come down to this. you are watching weekends with alex witt. the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone likes 50% more... [ midwestern/chicago accent ] cheddar! yeah! 50 percent more [yodeling] yodel-ay-ee-oo. 50% more flash. [ southern accent ] 50 percent more taters. that's where tots come from. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who like more cash. 50% more spy stuff. what's in your wallet? this car is too small. c'mon, michael! get in the game! [ male announcer ] don't have the hops for hoops with your buddies? lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you might not just be getting older. you might have a treatable condition called low testosterone or low t. millions of men, forty-five or older, may have low t. so talk to
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cliff. there's their 400,000. so everyone who makes $400,000 their taxes would stay the same. would that be acceptable. if there is no deal to be reached we do know that harry reid will try to move forward on monday with the bill for those making $250,000 or below. so that's what we need to see how it will work there. there are types of sweeteners they can do. mitch mcconnell is a tough place and this is the underreported part of the story. he has to figure out a deal that gets through the senate and doesn't make john boehner look too bad in the house and there are a lot of conservatives in the house that don't want to do any type of deal that would raise taxes on anybody even though they'll go up on the entire country the first tax hike in 20 years after monday night. >> and one would also assume that mitch mcconnell would have to back a grant, he could face a primary fight if this thing -- >> you touched on one of the great sub plots of these entire negotiations is personal things that boe
cliff. there's their 400,000. so everyone who makes $400,000 their taxes would stay the same. would that be acceptable. if there is no deal to be reached we do know that harry reid will try to move forward on monday with the bill for those making $250,000 or below. so that's what we need to see how it will work there. there are types of sweeteners they can do. mitch mcconnell is a tough place and this is the underreported part of the story. he has to figure out a deal that gets through the...
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cliff. good evening. i'm richard lui. you're watching the standoff in washington, d.c. the house gop is meeting at this hour for the second time today. leadership and members are discussing how to move forward on a bill they say need to include spending cuts. house speaker john boehner and eric cantor arrived at the meeting together. but it was cantor who set off the storm earlier today just hours ago by announcing he could not support the senate bill that was approved this morning at 2:00 a.m. house democratic leader nancy pelosi attempted to put pressure on tonight. she posted this on twitter saying quote, strong majority of house democrats support the bipartisan senate bill that passed 89-8. confident it will pass and speaker boehner allows an up or down vote. and republicans like congressman jack kingston of georgia blame the senate for a hastily written bill. >> it was way past those senators' bedtime. they were blurry eyed when they were reading it. we're trying to fill in the gap wher
cliff. good evening. i'm richard lui. you're watching the standoff in washington, d.c. the house gop is meeting at this hour for the second time today. leadership and members are discussing how to move forward on a bill they say need to include spending cuts. house speaker john boehner and eric cantor arrived at the meeting together. but it was cantor who set off the storm earlier today just hours ago by announcing he could not support the senate bill that was approved this morning at 2:00 a.m....
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turning now to what may be the phrase of the year, the fiscal cliff, and with the calendar as the enemy the two sides desperate to hammer out a deal. this afternoon the president will sit down with congressional leaders at the white house. the hope is that both sides can agree to a compromise to prevent the economy from sliding back into a recession. but judging from some of the rhetoric on capitol hill, we still got a long way to go, folks. >> if we go over the cliff, we will be left with the knowledge that could have been prevented with a single vote. american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a de dictatdec dictatorship of the speaker. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speaker ship. he's waiting until january 3rd to get reelected as speaker before he gets serious with negotiations. because he has so many people over there. that won't follow what he wants. that's obvious from the debacle that took place last week. >> tough words from the democrats. to the republicans,
turning now to what may be the phrase of the year, the fiscal cliff, and with the calendar as the enemy the two sides desperate to hammer out a deal. this afternoon the president will sit down with congressional leaders at the white house. the hope is that both sides can agree to a compromise to prevent the economy from sliding back into a recession. but judging from some of the rhetoric on capitol hill, we still got a long way to go, folks. >> if we go over the cliff, we will be left...
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thank you. >> have a good new year. >>> the possible fiscal cliff isn't the only thing happening at the stroke of midnight. more than 400 new laws take effect. some have a major impact including in new hampshire partial birth abortions will be banned. same sex couples will be able to marry in maryland. also registered sex offenders in illinois will no longer be able to dress up like santa or the easter bunny and will not be allowed to hand out candy on halloween. then there are some laws that just make you kind of go, hum. it will now be illegal for employers to require or request social media passwords in several states including maryland, new jersey, and delaware. motorcyclists in illinois can now run a red light if that light fails to change. in florida, your swamp buggy will no longer be considered a motor vehicle. >>> it is about 50/50 right now. i obviously would like to see a deal that would avoid the cliff but it depends on the content of the deal. >> it's a shame and disgrace that we are where we are. the american people are fed up first of all with this process. secondly, with
thank you. >> have a good new year. >>> the possible fiscal cliff isn't the only thing happening at the stroke of midnight. more than 400 new laws take effect. some have a major impact including in new hampshire partial birth abortions will be banned. same sex couples will be able to marry in maryland. also registered sex offenders in illinois will no longer be able to dress up like santa or the easter bunny and will not be allowed to hand out candy on halloween. then there are...
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thanks so much. >>> kentucky senator mitch mcconnell's inaction on the fiscal cliff could cost 25,000 unemployed in his state. details ahead. pd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having difficulty breathing, ask your doctor if including advair could help improve your lung function. get your first full prescription free and save on refills at advaircopd.com. >>> welcome back. we love hearing from our viewers on twitter and facebook page. many
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will go over the fiscal cliff. what's your reaction to that? have you heard that -- >> we can confirm that. >> i love john harwood, but luke and i have been reporting the same thing, jonathan, so there. >> okay. so we're going over the cliff? >> apparently. that's the bad news. the good news is, the parameters of a deal are definitely there. as you described, jonathan, the sticking point remains this so-called trigger, the sequester. remember, they agreed upon it last summer in july and august of 2011 when they came to that big debt ceiling deal. if there were no decision on how to cut government spending by now, these draconian cuts, indiscriminate across the board to defense half of it, $500 billion in domestic programs, the other half of it, the other $500 billion would go into effect. and now some want to have that delayed. they want to have it put off. the house of representatives, the leadership there is saying absolutely no way. there are ironies that abound all along here in these negotiations, and a lot of what you see on the surface,
will go over the fiscal cliff. what's your reaction to that? have you heard that -- >> we can confirm that. >> i love john harwood, but luke and i have been reporting the same thing, jonathan, so there. >> okay. so we're going over the cliff? >> apparently. that's the bad news. the good news is, the parameters of a deal are definitely there. as you described, jonathan, the sticking point remains this so-called trigger, the sequester. remember, they agreed upon it last...
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." >> great to be here, thank you. >> the obvious question -- are we going over the fiscal cliff? >> well, i think we're going to find out in the next 48 hours what congress decides to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. because it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended and they're all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight, december 31st, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they're less likely to hire and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is starting to pick up and we're seeing signs of recovery in housing and employment numbers improving. so what congress needs to do first and foremost, is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of ameri
." >> great to be here, thank you. >> the obvious question -- are we going over the fiscal cliff? >> well, i think we're going to find out in the next 48 hours what congress decides to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. because it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended and they're all about to expire at the end of the year. so on...
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." >> great to be here, thank you. >> the obvious question -- are we going over the fiscal cliff? >> well, i think we're going to find out in the next 48 hours what congress decides to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. because it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended and they're all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight, december 31st, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they're less likely to hire and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is starting to pick up and we're seeing signs of recovery in housing and employment numbers improving. so what congress needs to do first and foremost, is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of ameri
." >> great to be here, thank you. >> the obvious question -- are we going over the fiscal cliff? >> well, i think we're going to find out in the next 48 hours what congress decides to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is. because it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended and they're all about to expire at the end of the year. so on...
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the fiscal cliff talks, cabinet changes, what will define president obama's agenda at the first of the year? and has this last week done damage to john boehner and the republican party? and my round table will join me, representative jason chaffetz, harold ford, jr., andrea mitchell and chuck todd. back in a moment. >>> nobody gets a hundred percent of what they want. everybody's got to give a little bit in a sensible way. we move forward together or we don't move forward at all. so as we leave town for a few days to be with our families for the holidays, i hope it gives everybody some perspective. >> that was the president of course. we're back with our roundtable. joining me congress jason chaffetz of utah, former democratic congressman of tennessee, harold ford, jr., chuck todd and nbc correspondent andrea mitchell. welcome to all of you. all right, chuck. we'll talk about guns in a minute. let's talk about the fiscal cliff. are we going to get a deal here? >> we're going to get a small deal. it's a shame. you wonder is the only thing that could change things, the holidays, does it
the fiscal cliff talks, cabinet changes, what will define president obama's agenda at the first of the year? and has this last week done damage to john boehner and the republican party? and my round table will join me, representative jason chaffetz, harold ford, jr., andrea mitchell and chuck todd. back in a moment. >>> nobody gets a hundred percent of what they want. everybody's got to give a little bit in a sensible way. we move forward together or we don't move forward at all. so as...
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thank you. >> the obvious question, are we going to go over the fiscal cliff? >> well, i think we'll find out in the next 48 hours what congress will decide to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is, because it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended, and they are all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight, december 31st, if congress doesn't act, then everybody's taxes go up. and for the average family, that could mean a loss of $2,000 in income. for the entire economy, that means consumers have a lot less money to make purchases, which means businesses are going to have a lot less customers, which means that they are less likely to hire, and the whole economy could slow down at a time when the economy is actually starting to pick up. we are seeing signs of recovery in housing and in employment numbers improving. and so what congress needs to do, first and foremost, is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast maj
thank you. >> the obvious question, are we going to go over the fiscal cliff? >> well, i think we'll find out in the next 48 hours what congress will decide to do. but i think it's important for the american people to understand exactly what this fiscal cliff is, because it's actually not that complicated. the tax cuts that were introduced in 2001, 2003, 2010, those were extended, and they are all about to expire at the end of the year. so on midnight, december 31st, if congress...
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the fiscal cliff talks, cabinet changes, what will define president obama's agenda at the first of the year? president obama's agenda at the first of the year? and my round tablehey sis, it's so great to see you. you, too! oh, cloudy glasses. you didn't have to come over! actually, honey, i think i did... oh? you did? whoa, ladies, easy. hi. cascade kitchen counselor. we can help avoid this with cascade complete pacs. see, over time, cascade complete pacs fight film buildup two times better than finish quantum. to help leave glasses sparkling shiny! too bad it doesn't work on windows. okay, i'm outta here. cascade. the clear choice. >>> nobody gets a hundred percent of what they want. everybody's got to give a little bit in a sensible way. we move forward together or we don't move forward at all. so as we leave town for a few days to be with our families for the holidays, i hope it gives everybody some perspective. >> that was the president of course. we're back with our roundtable. joining me congress jason chaffetz of utah, former democratic congressman of tennessee, harold ford, jr.
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we are going over the fiscal cliff. we are going either all the way over or going partly over, but we are definitely, definitely going over. that whole fiscal cliff thing, where congress and the white house can't reach a deal on taxes and spending before the end of the year and they maybe get us into a recession, it's definitely happening. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our families, for our businesses, and for our entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> allow me a quick update here. that press conference, it came after president obama met with john boehner and nancy pelosi and harry reid and mitch mcconnell, so all the key congressional leaders. and listen to the president here. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't g
we are going over the fiscal cliff. we are going either all the way over or going partly over, but we are definitely, definitely going over. that whole fiscal cliff thing, where congress and the white house can't reach a deal on taxes and spending before the end of the year and they maybe get us into a recession, it's definitely happening. that was the whole point of president obama's press conference this afternoon. >> i still want to get this done. it's the right thing to do for our...
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fiscal cliff negotiations. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. opened a new world. ♪ i have direct deposit on my visa prepaid. my paycheck is loaded right on my card. automatic. i am not going downtown standing in line to cash it. i know where my money is, because it is in my pocket. i got more time with my daughter, we got places to go. [ freeman ] go open a new world, with visa prepaid. more people go with visa. >>> coming up, it was the tape everyone was talking about. we'll look at how mitt romney's 47% comments changed the presidential race. and later, from voter purchase to long lines, americans faced many obstacles to cast their vote this november. >>> ohio state senator nina turner joins me to discuss the fight for the right to veto. we'll be right back with our special edition of "the ed show," a salute to the middle class heroes. ♪ that over time, having high cholesterol and any of these risk factors can put them at increased risk for plaque buildup in their arteries. so it's even more
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despite the fiscal cliff deadline looming just hours from now, the markets are opening significantly higher. i don't know, little bit of a surprise. this comes as both the dow and s&p 500 each lost 1.9% last week after stocks fell for five straight sessions. it's the s&p's longest losing streak in three months. next, what can president obama learn from abraham lincoln? >> one of the things that you learn having now been in this office for four years is, you know, the old adage of abraham lincoln's, that with public opinion there's nothing you can't do, and without public opinion, there's very little you can get done in this town. atchee worked for us. we don't argue much. we really don't. meg usually just gets her way, and i go along with it. i think it worked for matt because i did it for him. when i'm the one cooking, i'm the one calculating the points. i can microwave things. you get to eat real food. we still get to go out. we're just so much smarter about it. we can keep each other in check. going, "okay, i see you." we've lost about 110 pounds together. it helped our love life.
despite the fiscal cliff deadline looming just hours from now, the markets are opening significantly higher. i don't know, little bit of a surprise. this comes as both the dow and s&p 500 each lost 1.9% last week after stocks fell for five straight sessions. it's the s&p's longest losing streak in three months. next, what can president obama learn from abraham lincoln? >> one of the things that you learn having now been in this office for four years is, you know, the old adage of...
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♪ >>> back to the fiscal cliff. all but five republican senators voted to pass the bill put together by senator mcconnell and vice president biden last night. among those voting in the affirmative, north dakota's republican senator john hoeven. senator hoeven, thank you for joining me. happy new year. >> happy new year, chris. >> you talked about the possibility for tax reform and social security reform. are you disappointed the senate couldn't come up with a bigger deal? >> i was pushing hard for a big deal that included tax reform, entitlement reform and savings, real savings to get on top of the deficit and the debt. but you know, we can't do the whole thing at once, let's get as much done as we can. we've got to move forward. this is a big step on the tax piece. more work to do. we've got to get after it. >> you're one of just a handful of congressional republicans who did not sign the norquist antitax pledge, but do you think that the fact that we technically went over the cliff gives house republicans who have
♪ >>> back to the fiscal cliff. all but five republican senators voted to pass the bill put together by senator mcconnell and vice president biden last night. among those voting in the affirmative, north dakota's republican senator john hoeven. senator hoeven, thank you for joining me. happy new year. >> happy new year, chris. >> you talked about the possibility for tax reform and social security reform. are you disappointed the senate couldn't come up with a bigger deal?...
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remember, president obama is going to make a statement on the fiscal cliff talks at 5:45 eastern time and msnbc will provide live coverage. until then, chris matthews is up next with the best "sideshow" moments of the year and the nra's best excuses for standing in the way of any and all reasonable restrictions on guns. this is "hardball," the place for politics. to the best vacation spot on earth. (all) the gulf! it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality is incredible. thanks, karen. love your mississippi outdoors. i vote for your florida beaches, dawn. bill, this louisiana seafood is delicious. we're having such a great year on the gulf, we've decided to put aside our rivalry. now is the perfect time to visit anyone of our states. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride, go fishing or just lay in the sun. we've got coastline to explore and wildlife to photograph. and there's world class dining with our world famous seafood. so for a great vaca
remember, president obama is going to make a statement on the fiscal cliff talks at 5:45 eastern time and msnbc will provide live coverage. until then, chris matthews is up next with the best "sideshow" moments of the year and the nra's best excuses for standing in the way of any and all reasonable restrictions on guns. this is "hardball," the place for politics. to the best vacation spot on earth. (all) the gulf! it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit....
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pascrell to rejacket to the negotiations in the fiscal cliff and hundreds of teachers are being offered free firearms training in utah. do you think it's a good idea to carry concealed weapons to school? it is the "news nation" gut check. be sure to check out the tumblr page. there i am pretending to work there. how about that? find lots of behind the scenes pictures, "news nation." [ male announcer ] feeling like a shadow of your former self? c'mon, michael! get in the game! [ male announcer ] don't have the hops for hoops with your buddies? lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you might not just be getting older. you might have a treatable condition called low testosterone or low t. millions of men, forty-five or older, may have low t. so talk to your doctor about low t. hey, michael! [ male announcer ] and step out of the shadows. hi! how are you? [ male announcer ] learn more at isitlowt.com. [ laughs ] hey! and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. au
pascrell to rejacket to the negotiations in the fiscal cliff and hundreds of teachers are being offered free firearms training in utah. do you think it's a good idea to carry concealed weapons to school? it is the "news nation" gut check. be sure to check out the tumblr page. there i am pretending to work there. how about that? find lots of behind the scenes pictures, "news nation." [ male announcer ] feeling like a shadow of your former self? c'mon, michael! get in the...
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we're here today because there's no deal and we are hours away from the fiscal cliff. here with us now, republican senator from tennessee and member of the senate banking committee, senator bob corker. senator, thanks for being on the show. we appreciate it. >> good morning. >> robert gibbs was characterizing many republicans as 5-year-olds that will not eat their vegetables, and every time we try and get them to eat their vegetabl vegetables, they ask for a smaller and a smaller and a smaller pea and it gets down to one pea on a plate. is that fair? >> look, this whole thing's a national embarrassment. i think it's an embarrassment to the president, it's an embarrassment to both sides of the aisle and to both the house and the senate. >> how do we get out of it? >> well, first of all, i mean, whatever happens today is really inconsequential. it really doesn't matter. it's going to happen. we will have a solution, but as jeffrey was saying earlier, we still haven't moved any closer to solving our nation's problems. and so, now what will happen is this will be put off,
we're here today because there's no deal and we are hours away from the fiscal cliff. here with us now, republican senator from tennessee and member of the senate banking committee, senator bob corker. senator, thanks for being on the show. we appreciate it. >> good morning. >> robert gibbs was characterizing many republicans as 5-year-olds that will not eat their vegetables, and every time we try and get them to eat their vegetabl vegetables, they ask for a smaller and a smaller...
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thanks so much. >>> kentucky senator mitch mcconnell's connection on the fiscal cliff could cost 25,000 unemployed in his state. details ahead. >>> welcome back. we love hearing from our viewers on twitter and facebook page. many of you were heartened by the success of the los angeles gun buyback program we reported on yesterday. on twitter, michael said, "there needs to be more gun buyback programs nationwide. put food on your table, not guns in your home." sharon omarosa said, "this is the best news ever. i wish my city would do it. but i'm sure there is not a lot of money out there for it." and twitter user dangergirl called the gun buyback program "heartwarming. humanity learning curve in action," she said. keep shares your thoughts with us on facebook and twitter using #edshow. >>> coming up, as the fiscal cliff looms, 24,000 people in mitch mcconnell's home state could lose their unemployment benefits. john nichols has the details. stay tuned. [ cheeping ] [ male announcer ] you hear that? that's the sound of car insurance companies these days. here a cheap, there a cheap, everywh
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it's cumulative, it's the debt ceiling, it's the fiscal cliff, it's what taxes are going to be, it's what spending is going to be, people feel uncertain and when they feel uncertain they pull back. that's a natural reaction, whether they're investors or consumers. >> thank you for your time tonight. >> you're welcome. >>> as crises go, you hope for the best and you prepare for the worst, right? since the former is starting to not look so likely, the preparing for the worst options are beginning to ramp up double time. the emergency fail breakers next. >>> is there a new gun regulation you could support? >> i'll tell you what would work right now. tomorrow morning, the nra would be there every step of the way. every u.s. attorney. violent felon, violent criminal, take them off the street. look, if ever -- >> there's no new gun regulation you would support. >> this is what would work. if every -- >> i'm asking you a direct question. is there any new gun regulation you would be willing to support? >> i'm giving you the answer. >> you're saying we should prosecute more criminals. >> he d
it's cumulative, it's the debt ceiling, it's the fiscal cliff, it's what taxes are going to be, it's what spending is going to be, people feel uncertain and when they feel uncertain they pull back. that's a natural reaction, whether they're investors or consumers. >> thank you for your time tonight. >> you're welcome. >>> as crises go, you hope for the best and you prepare for the worst, right? since the former is starting to not look so likely, the preparing for the worst...
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with aum the talk of the fiscal cliff what will it mean for your pocketbook if we go over it. gene joins us ahead. first we'll and the ranking member what he's doing to keep it from happening. i bet vanhollen is happy about that. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. share everything. share brotherly love. share one up's. mom ? mom ? the share everything plan. lets your family share a pool of data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. now get a lucid by lg, free. aww man. [ male announcer ] returns are easy with free pickup from the u.s. postal service. we'll even drop off boxes if you need them. visit usps.com pay, print, and have it picked up for free. any time of year. ♪ nice sweater. thank you. ♪ >>> joining us from washington co congressman chris van hollen from maryland. he can commute from his home to office every day. what's going to happen today? what good is it going to happen today? can anything good happen today? >> yes, something good can happen today. the president is back at the white house, and he's called the congressional leadership
with aum the talk of the fiscal cliff what will it mean for your pocketbook if we go over it. gene joins us ahead. first we'll and the ranking member what he's doing to keep it from happening. i bet vanhollen is happy about that. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. share everything. share brotherly love. share one up's. mom ? mom ? the share everything plan. lets your family share a pool of data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. now get a lucid by lg,...